Andrew Fountain - Can a Christian fall away? - Hebrews pt.4
- Artist: Andrew Fountain
- Title: Can a Christian fall away? - Hebrews pt.4
- Album: Newlife Church, Toronto
- Track: 4
- Genre: Hebrews
- Year: 2017-02-05
- Length: 37:27 minutes (15.02 MB)
- Format: MP3 Stereo 44kHz 56Kbps (VBR)
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Sermon notes - Can a Christian fall away? - Hebrews pt.4
1. The Story so far
- This is a 3-part talk, put down in writing. Not originally a letter.
- Extremely polished Greek. Clearly not Paul, but very possibly Apollos
- We ended last time with
- Tim Hortons garbage illustration
2. Now we move into the first intermission
- So here’s a problem
- On the surface this seems to teach that you can become a Christian and fall away
- Even worse, that once you have fallen away, you can no longer be forgiven
- Let’s look at whom this is talking about”
- received light
- tasted supernatural power
- were involved with the Holy Spirit
- It’s possible to have the power of the Holy Spirit on you and not be truly saved
- Jesus said “did we not cast out demons in your name...” “I never knew you”
- I think this is talking about people like Judas
- The Spirit came on King Saul, prophesied but we know his heart was never changed
- saw “heaven come down” in miracles
- but rejected it
- “Eschatological Intrusion” (The age to come, breaking into this age)
3. The Unforgivable Sin
- Have you heard of this term?
- Here is the principle:
- Whenever the age to come breaks into this age with extraordinary miracles, we also see judgement breaking it
- It’s like time fast-forwards to the end
- What were the periods of greatest miracles in the Bible?
- plagues in Egypt
- Pharaoh
- It’s like God said “I’ve given you my best shot” If you don’t believe now, there’s nothing else, so we may as well cut to the judgement
- miracles in the wilderness
- Korah & others who rebelled
- miraculous works of Elijah & Elisha
- similar judgements
- Jesus shows the most extraordinay & explict hand of God
- Some call it the work of the devil —If they don’t believe that, there’s nothing more
- Early church miracles
- Ananias & Sapphira lie against the Holy Spirit
- Summary:
- When someone has seen the most explicit supernatural power of the Spirit in front of their very eyes
- And they turn their back on it
- There’s nothing more because they’ve quenched the Spirit
- It’s not that they can’t come back, it’s that the Spirit has already done everything for them that he’s going to do
- So here’s the question:
- +Many other verses
- Can you be united with Jesus and separated?
- New life, which then dies?
- But on the other hand, we do have the parable of the four kinds of seeds, which he alludes to:
- Jesus is not talking about Christians who fall away, but people who were never truly saved, yet looked good
4. Conclusions
- It depends on your perspective
- From God’s perspective, the ones he has saved cannot ever fall away
- From our perspective we see people who look like Christians, but they do fall away
- There are people who fall away
- Story of Paul Washer at youth conference see 11min mark
- more info here
- So is there any way of telling?
- Those who’s salvation is secure
- have demonstrated love for one another
- but need to be eager, not sluggish
- What is needed: persevering faith in the promises
Our response:
- People who have severe depression frequently believe that they have committed the “unforgivable sin”.
- However, the very fact that they are even concerned about it is proof that they cannot have committed it:
- the Spirit stops working in such a person
- they therefore lose all spiritual concern
- So what is the purpose of this passage?
- To be a wake-up call for people who are good at acting like a Christian, but whose hearts are not renewed
- If you are at all concerned about whether you are a Christian, please come and talk with me.
- To help us know where the edge is to keep away from it
- To be a wake-up call for people who are good at acting like a Christian, but whose hearts are not renewed
- If you are afraid of heights, do you need a warning sign to keep you from the edge?
- If nobody has ever actually fallen off, does that mean the sign was a waste of time?
- This passage is a warning sign to keep away from the edge
- None of God’s people will every fall off, but that’s partly due to the warning signs!
- Part of the purpose of talking about the drop is to drive you closer to Jesus
- The focus in the surrounding passage is not on your weakness, but his power
- The danger is not that you sin too many times, and eventually Jesus will turn you away and stop forgiving you
- No, it’s about turning your back on Jesus, and saying all you have seen of his supernatural power is just a delusion
- Two points for next week:
- The person who is truly saved but is a deep backslider
- The Christian walking in darkness, and thinking it’s because of sin
Updated on 2017-02-07 by Andrew Fountain
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