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Andrew Fountain – Sept 9, 2012
Young Family
Born in England with parents loved the Lord
Dad was a pastor
1. Early concern
lots of questions
“I really mean it”
cowboys
Does just saying a prayer make you a Christian?
What does the Bible say?
“Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved”
It’s not something we can measure! God knows the heart. You know if you have believed because the Spirit comes to live in you.
Beach
2. Teenager (early high-school years)
re-evaluate
sure it was true because of the reality in my parents’ lives
up and down /\/\/\-> in concern
Occasionally I would be stirred up by a good speaker at a meeting
I would say a prayer for salvation
I would think: I wasn’t a Christian before, but I am now!
yet it would quickly evaporate
sometimes I thought I was a Christian—even organized prayer meetings
I was absolutely sure I would end up a Christian, so I didn’t need to worry too much.
Living totally for myself, in my own Andrew-centred world
no fruit
Caving
Life was fuun
Bike
Many people are in this position—they believe in God and think they are ok but nothing really happens.
What do such people need?
A dose of reality: This is what a Christian is, not someone who is just saying a
Matthew 16:24–26
Then Jesus said to his disciples, “If anyone wants to become my follower, he must deny himself, take up his cross, and follow me.
For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.
For what does it benefit a person if he gains the whole world but forfeits his life? Or what can a person give in exchange for his life?
There was no fruit in my life, and I was living for myself. Everyone else could see it except me.
What is the answer for someone in this position?
3. Worried still teenager
Noel Heather: you are not Christians! You need to turn to God!
Realized I had no automatic pass to heaven and could go to hell.
Listen to cars passing in street outside my window
went on for several years
complete misunderstanding about salvation
Luke 18:10–14
“Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector.
The Pharisee stood and prayed about himself like this: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people: extortionists, unrighteous people, adulterers — or even like this tax collector.
I fast twice a week; I give a tenth of everything I get.’
The tax collector, however, stood far off and would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, be merciful to me, sinner that I am!’
I tell you that this man went down to his home justified rather than the Pharisee. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but he who humbles himself will be exalted.”
Steps to being saved
uninterested
growing “conviction of sin”
true repentance and faith
assurance of salvation
Is this biblical?
Luke 11:9–10 “a seeker”
“So I tell you: Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and the door will be opened for you.
For everyone who asks receives, and the one who seeks finds, and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.
What did I need at this time? —good theology
God brought me some good theology, but in a very unusual way
4. Shock
Three things that dominated my thinking—girls, electronics and music
Band
I really wanted a girlfriend—not for a life-long relationship but just because I was lonely
Problem of being a “seeker”
Conversion of one of the YP who had just started coming
they had been reading Spurgeon
I decided to.
Finally, some good theology
Road
5. Life like a road /:\
I had heard the story of Blondin walking across the falls
Just believe. You don’t have to do anything else
“roll yourself onto Jesus” I had no strength for anything more
One evening as I was praying I was thinking about the beauty of what Jesus did
I felt that even if I was go go to hell, I would still spend eternity praising him
I don’t know exactly the moment I was saved, but that was June 6, just after my 17th birthday
6. Slow Assurance
talked to parents
studied science, eventually getting a Ph.D. in computer science
Married Anne
It was great fun, but I had a deep desire to know more of God and to serve him more
worked for different companies, ending up being a university lecturer
1885 finished Ph.D.
Take a year out and study theology —Toronto!
by this time had two lovely children:
Luke & Jessica
1990 I felt God leading me to change careers and study theology
I did a Masters degree in Theology, studied 5yrs of Greek and 3 of Hebrew
Then in 1994 God opened up an opportunity for me to teach in Seminary, in fact I was appointed the Principal
Certainly not a Spirit-centred seminary, but God was doing things in my life
My heart’s desire was to know God more and to help others to do so
I started to teach a course on the Christian life
I set myself to pray that God would reveal to me what I should teach
I was expecting a kind of “brain dump” of theology
What actually happened was that God brought a whole load of pain and suffering into my life
open to change
hungry for answers
I spent a lot of time studying the Bible, and finally came to the conclusion that
the supernatural gifts have not ceased
what I needed was more of the Spirit
but I had no idea how to get more of him
End of 2001, a friend in England was saved
She was given Surprised by the power of the Holy Spirit by Jack Deere
I was SO HUNGRY I read anything I could get my hands on
Amazed by what I read about prophecy
by Summer 2002 I desperately wanted to see what it looked like, and the only place I could think of going was to a church out by the airport...
Prophecy
Questions
I decided that if what was happening at TACF was real, it was one of the most important moves of God in history
I had to find the answer
Read about 30 books
read 100’s of internet articles, from those which supported it, right through the spectrum to those which said it was demonic
I was very cautious, and spent a lot of time watching the LiveTV on the internet
People on both sides kept quoting Johathan Edwards to support themselves
They couldn’t both be right, so I decided to read him for myself
got hold of the main documents, and underlined all the parts relevant to TACF
shocked at how opponents selectively quoted him!
Main principle:
The Bible doesn’t tell us to judge by manifestations (list of good and bad)
We are to judge by the fruit in people’s lives
So I decided that I couldn’t do any more evaluation from a distance, I had to start coming, and see people’s lives
So, Jan 2003 I started going to some evening meetings
I wanted to see if there was fruit, so every antenna was out—if this was the Spirit, they had to be very good
I was impressed—particularly with the reality of the relationship that people had with God.
I WANTED IT, I WAS SO HUNGRY FOR MORE OF GOD
So on March 6th, I decided to get my feet wet
I volunteered to be a catcher (I don’t have the gift!)
it was very interesting
I was very struck by the love shown by ministry team lady to those she was praying for
I was prayed over, which was a blessing, but I didn’t feel very different
I was tired and happy and went home to bed
The next morning I woke up with a powerful feeling of how much God loved me!
The next night I only got two hours sleep because of this wonderful feeling of his love invading my being
It hasn’t stopped since then!
It has ebbed and flowed, but this sense of his love is there all the time, like an arm wrapped around me
This led to some differences of emphasis between me and the Seminary where I worked